Doug Pagitt and Dan Deitrich discuss a short clip from Vote Common Good's Samir Selmanovic on moving away from narratives that require villains and heroes.
Doug Pagitt is the Executive Director and one of the founders of Vote Common Good. He is also a pastor, author, and social activist. @pagitt
Daniel Deitrich is a singer-songwriter, former-pastor-turned-activist, and producer of The Common Good Podcast. @danieldeitrich